Learning from dissection

[Ponichiwa]

Are equine dissections becoming "a thing" in dressage?

[Chisamba]

A very simple example. Muscles only contract so muscles work in pairs. This is a great finding from anatomy. But, it takes more muscle to lift, because gravity will do the work of a muscle. That is the sphere of biomechanics and is supposed or deducted from anatomy and watching the live animal.

Anatomy only becomes biomechanics when applied to the living animal.

Regarding anatomical discussions of Rollkur, it is only scientifically significant if say a hundred horses of the same age and breed were dissected. 33 could never have been ridden, that would be the control. 33 ridden with rollkur fir the same amount of time, and 33 ridden but no rollkur. Then findings of anatomical neck structure would be unbiased and significant. Otherwise there is bias.

For example the recommended "carrot stretches" supposedly healing, put the horse in a similar position to rollkur, supposedly damaging.

Unless you do a year of carrot stretches on horses, then kill and dissect them, you cannot actually know they are helping. If course MRI would be a better option

But we are talking about dissection.

[Chisamba]

A very simple example. Muscles only contract so muscles work in pairs. This is a great finding from anatomy. But, it takes more muscle to lift, because gravity will do the work of a muscle. That is the sphere of biomechanics and is supposed or deducted from anatomy and watching the live animal.

Anatomy only becomes biomechanics when applied to the living animal.

Regarding anatomical discussions of Rollkur, it is only scientifically significant if say a hundred horses of the same age and breed were dissected. 33 could never have been ridden, that would be the control. 33 ridden with rollkur fir the same amount of time, and 33 ridden but no rollkur. Then findings of anatomical neck structure would be unbiased and significant. Otherwise there is bias.

For example the recommended "carrot stretches" supposedly healing, put the horse in a similar position to rollkur, supposedly damaging.

Unless you do a year of carrot stretches on horses, then kill and dissect them, you cannot actually know they are helping. If course MRI would be a better option

But we are talking about dissection.

[Tsavo]

Khall, you are arguing points I have not made and ignoring points I have made. There is no communication.

[kande50]

Really? If someone with extensive anatomical knowledge isn't the best rider in the world then anatomical knowledge couldn't possibly be helpful?
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Correct.[/quote]

So it wouldn't matter if she didn't have the time to ride, because if anatomical knowledge was a factor she should still be the best rider in the world?

[Tsavo]

Really? If someone with extensive anatomical knowledge isn't the best rider in the world then anatomical knowledge couldn't possibly be helpful?
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Correct.

So it wouldn't matter if she didn't have the time to ride, because if anatomical knowledge was a factor she should still be the best rider in the world?

Correct.

[khall]

Tsavo I am just ignoring your questions, I have tried to answer them and you do not want to accept the answer I give and to be honest I am tired of beating a dead horse (get it:). You and chisamba do not see any value in dissection or anatomy, that is fine, no skin off my nose. I do see value in learning and understanding anatomy (listening to biomechanics lecture based on anatomy of the horse I have had many ah ha moments, yes some of it was neurological in basis chisamba) and would love to attend an equine dissection to further that curiosity and learning geek that I am. I don't really care if you agree with me or not. So there ya go.

Bad day, fighting with rescue over my foster dog who needed to be seen by vet today. Possibly diagnosed with tick borne disease, he is not feeling well and is neurologic, will know for certain Friday. So I have little patience for this tonight.

[Tsavo]

This thread reminds me of kasette's thread on immaculate canter departs.