demi wrote:I commented (with Pics) on the "SHORTEN YOUR REINS!" thing, over in the old folks forum so i wouldn't derail the goals thread anymore...
Good idea. I guess I post the same way I ride: lateedateeda....
demi wrote:I commented (with Pics) on the "SHORTEN YOUR REINS!" thing, over in the old folks forum so i wouldn't derail the goals thread anymore...
kande50 wrote:But then, if one is driven to progress, failing to progress can be frustrating, and there goes the fun.
AmityBee wrote:. The long rein with its unsteady contact is just undermining the trust my horse still has toward connection, therefore I need to work on fixing me....
I feel this way, also. I found it difficult on some horses to keep my position and remain elastic (and "feel" and keep the horse forward, and and and)when the horse wsn't cooperating. I remember "knowing" where I needed to be for the horse, but not being able to get my body there.
...And now I'm going to be brave, just to give you an idea of what I have been working on for the last year or so. ...
I never found that true. Maybe that is because I never really progressed or achieved as much as I wanted. When I did achieve or progress, then my spirits were boosted and I wanted to achieve more. For me, it's what Kande said. Failing to progress or achieve can be frustrating, even discouraging to some people.Ganas wrote:kande50 wrote:But then, if one is driven to progress, failing to progress can be frustrating, and there goes the fun.
FWIW, and I continue on this as I feel it's at least somewhat appropriate in a goals thread- progressing and achieving can also suck the fun out of something for a while. Runners tend to call it the Post Race Blues. Lots written about it. http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-sto ... race-blues
http://dallanmanscill.com/tag/post-race-blues/
musical comedy wrote:I never found that true. Maybe that is because I never really progressed or achieved as much as I wanted. When I did achieve or progress, then my spirits were boosted and I wanted to achieve more. For me, it's what Kande said. Failing to progress or achieve can be frustrating, even discouraging to some people.Ganas wrote:kande50 wrote:But then, if one is driven to progress, failing to progress can be frustrating, and there goes the fun.
FWIW, and I continue on this as I feel it's at least somewhat appropriate in a goals thread- progressing and achieving can also suck the fun out of something for a while. Runners tend to call it the Post Race Blues. Lots written about it. http://www.runnersworld.com/runners-sto ... race-blues
http://dallanmanscill.com/tag/post-race-blues/
I don't know if this topic belongs on the Goals Thread where other like to talk about their daily rides and progress.
PaulaEdwina wrote:... I have been able to ride him one handed with my split reins at Western contact so things have been moving along nicely.
demi wrote:I don't think I was ever really goal oriented but I appreciate that some people are. [...] I still, however, want to progress in training to the highest level that I can achieve with my horse.
demi wrote:PaulaEdwina wrote:... I have been able to ride him one handed with my split reins at Western contact so things have been moving along nicely.
I love my split reins! I use them on trails all the time and ride in a Western contact. But I just recently started trail riding Rocky in a bosal and I think I am going to switch to that as my main trail bridle. It's taken several years to get to the point of feeling safe on the trails in a bosal on her.
Your work sounds a bit like what I do. I like the variation from the dressage arena.
Glad to hear your canter transitions are coming along. It's so nice to hear of progress...
PaulaEdwina wrote: I found two very cool pictures of Western ridden horses with Western contact with self-carriage!
demi wrote:
Also have been reading the tempo thread and thinking about it.
demi wrote:PaulaEdwina wrote: I found two very cool pictures of Western ridden horses with Western contact with self-carriage!
I love that picture of Buck Branaman. I am going to stare at it a while before I go out and ride today because it is a visual I need to carry over into my riding.
musical comedy wrote:demi wrote:PaulaEdwina wrote: I found two very cool pictures of Western ridden horses with Western contact with self-carriage!
I love that picture of Buck Branaman. I am going to stare at it a while before I go out and ride today because it is a visual I need to carry over into my riding.
That is not self carriage imo. It's a head set.
PaulaEdwina wrote:
Oh I completely disagree. That is self carriage. That is a quarter horse using himself back to front. But that's JMO too.
PaulaEdwina wrote:I don't know that you can tell impulsion from a still photo so I won't speak to that.
Ok, I'll concede that it is self carriage if we look at the definition of that term. If a horse is in balance for the task at hand and not getting support from the reins, then he would be in self carriage. Whatever, I don't think that BB or any of those western riders that ride like him are ones whose techniques and style would benefit the serious dressage rider. I agree that, while we don't know for sure, his trot work is not something that would be wanted in dressage. There are very few videos of BB riding, specifically trot.kande50 wrote:I think it's probably self carriage, but just not the kind of self carriage we're looking for in dressage? What I like about it is that it doesn't look like the hindquarters are trailing so the horse looks balanced, his poll is up, and he's ifv. So a nice outline, but just perhaps without much impulsion?
musical comedy wrote:Ok, I'll concede that it is self carriage if we look at the definition of that term. If a horse is in balance for the task at hand and not getting support from the reins, then he would be in self carriage. Whatever, I don't think that BB or any of those western riders that ride like him are ones whose techniques and style would benefit the serious dressage rider. I agree that, while we don't know for sure, his trot work is not something that would be wanted in dressage. There are very few videos of BB riding, specifically trot.kande50 wrote:I think it's probably self carriage, but just not the kind of self carriage we're looking for in dressage? What I like about it is that it doesn't look like the hindquarters are trailing so the horse looks balanced, his poll is up, and he's ifv. So a nice outline, but just perhaps without much impulsion?
onetrickpony wrote:....I spent most of the last ride trotting figures and over poles in two-point position to help lengthen both legs, which was interesting in my dressage saddle and long stirrups. But it felt glorious. So, more of that feeling is the goal this month.
demi wrote:When I looked a the picture (of Buck)I realized the reason my half-halts stopped going through was because I was blocking them with my tension. Tension in my arms mainly, from misdirected brain signals to "keep those reins short".
Flight wrote:Anyway, here's some footage - feel free to have a laugh! Hopefully one day - my long term goal- we can show some perfect changes.
Silverpoet wrote:My goal for November is to put a canter on Maddie. She's a draft cross so her idea of a canter is to trot fast until she breaks into a canter which I know is a strength issue (besides never being taught the canter cue). So, for the past few months I've been working on building her strength and now she can canter on the lunge line pretty well and stay in balance so I figure it's time to start trying under saddle.
KathyS wrote:Work more on our canter to the left. Our right lead is so much easier, so I need to force myself to canter left more. We've been cross training and doing some jumping. Did a schooling hunter show, and Breeze did really well. We're going to do another mini-trial in November, and there is a Dressage schooling show late November. That will probably be the end of showing for the year.
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